SciFi Surplus #072 Empire Rebellion Debate
September 16, 2008
Topics: Star Wars, Fringe, Star Trek, Iva Longoria, Nathan Lowell, Quarter Share
We’ve got a great show on the way! SciFi Surplus is all about giving you an alternative to regular talk radio. We give you timely news that you care about and discuss geeky topics from SciFi, fantasy and genre fiction. We also try to work in as much fun as we can. Our big topic in the Council of Great Relevance is Imperialism vs. Rebellion: A Star Wars Debate. Coming up in the news we’ll find out, if Fox is happy with J.J. Abrams’ Fringe and some Trek Movie details, plus does a Desparate Housewife has a shot at being a superhero. We’ll also be discussing Nathan Lowell’s audio novel Quarter Share.
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I’m Casey and joining me on the show today is…
- Producer Randy
- Audio Manager Darren
- Science Officer Jeromy
Let’s get our geek on!
Anti-witness News:
- Fringe Ratings Are Disappointing To Fox
- Transformers Trailer And Abusive Alcoholic In Star Trek
- Eva Longoria Visits Marvel Studios
- George Takei Get Married
- No Guitar Hero Movie
The Council of Great Relevance: The Empire vs. The Rebellion, a Debate
- Randy and Casey argue for the side of the Empire.
- Darren and Jeromy argue for the side of the Rebellion and the Jedi.
- Did Luke save Anikin or was it the other way around?
- Was the Jedi Council of the “right” side?
- Which side had the better weapons, ships and technology?
Monthly Audio Novel Discussion: Quarter Share by Nathan Lowell
- Dr. Lowell’s website: http://solarclipper.com
- Thanks to the input of our callers and mailers.
- Thanks to Karlton for blogging about us: http://karltonwrites.com
Credits:
- Special Thank You: Suzanna (made the jingle!)
- Episode Producer: Randy.
- Producer: Girl Friday.
- The X.O.: Vince.
- Chief Writer: Bob.
- News Director: John.
- Audio Manager: Darren.
- Attorney Princess: Stephanie.
- Science Officer: Jeromy.
- Sugar Mama: BriAnna.
- Voice Talent: Dan
- Voice Talent: Dave
- Voice Talent: Nathan
- Host: Casey
September 17th, 2008 at 5:49 am
Again, won’t download from iTunes to a player … ugh!
September 17th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
I originally had trouble in iTunes, but eventually it downloaded, although it was rather slow.
September 17th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Great ep guys. Really enjoyed that debate, especially the perspective it was debated from. One of the most enjoyable segments in a while.
September 18th, 2008 at 7:41 am
Sweet Baby Jesus, WTF was that?! A debate without a moderator? To paraphrase Joss Whedon, “a big damn failure”!
Liked the music jingle.
September 18th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
I have to agree with Mr. Lee on this one. The debate format doesn’t seem to work very well. You’re all much more interesting when being yourselves and letting your own personalities come through.
September 19th, 2008 at 6:14 am
^^ Well, I like the debate format so long as it is a debate. What we got wasn’t a debate. It was an uncontrolled free-for-all, and there was no way to know who was speaking for what. It honestly seemed like a very poorly written comedy skit on Saturday Night Live that would play right before they signed off (where they put the really bad crap). Sorry, but that’s how it came across. The previous Trek-based debate was much more controlled and entertaining. Just my two cents …
September 19th, 2008 at 6:26 am
I enjoyed the debate even if it could have been more structured.
I had one point to add. Since it appeared that the Empire side was being argued from a Right Wing conservative stance, there was one problem in the Jedi Assassin theory.
Mace Windu and his friends on the beer run stated that they were there to arrest Palpatine when he attacked them and killed three of them before Windu decided that he couldn’t be allowed to live because he was too dangerous. If a person in our society attacked and killed three police officers on a simple arrest assignment, that person would never make it to the police station. Self-defense would be the justified reason for the perp’s demise. Also a very Right Wing attitude. In fact, that is probably the defense the Stormtroopers would use in the Lars investigation ala Troops.
September 19th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
I too enjoyed the debate and echo the sentiment that is should have been more structured. A moderator would have helped.
Rev. Fish is right to a point. The Jedi did come by to arrest Palpatine. If the Jedi are the police force then we all know that cop always arrive with at least a partner. Avoiding lawsuits alone require that and someone as important as Palpatine would require at least 4. After killing 3 Jedi Windu was out of his mind with grief. Anakin does not have to the the only emo Jedi does he?
All that being said, Palpatine played defeated to draw Anakin that much closer to the dark side.
One last point. It was the realization, even if false, that Anakin had killed the one woman he loved that caused the rage that created Vader. All the other influences simply pushed him in that direction.
September 28th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Hey guys,
I really enjoyed the trek debate but this debate wasn’t as good. To start with, I think that having an impartial moderator is necessary for balance and order. I also think that the premise was a bit off because anyone who thinks that jack-booted strong-arming liars have any sort of moral ground is not going to get much sympathy. I do think you you had the right idea with ‘who had the best ships etc?’…comparing the coolness factor was much more interesting for me.
I usually listen to the very end of every segment because I enjoy you guys so much but I had to skip the end of this debate as it kept going round and round and not making much sense.